Dit gaat over Griekenland en de EU
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November 30, 2012 · 12:07 pm



GREECE FLEECED: How the Athens ‘elite’ has been taken for a ride


Twelve years of hard times…to get precisely nowhere

The Government of Antonis Samaras has signed up to a debt bailout plan that ensures it will have a bigger debt in 2022 than it had in 2009. This process has already cost the country billions, and is set to cost it even more – not to mention the socio-political cost of acute shortages, loss of services, unemployment, and the rise of extreme Parties. In this special essay, The Slog lays out the full hypocrisy of this futile attempt by the EU’s leaders to keep the single currency afloat.

The devious practices involved in saving the euro by raping Greece become ever-more complex and Machiavellian. The International Monetary Fund said yesterday that it would not disburse funds in the proposed EU-IMF package for Greece unless the eurozone delivers on a bond “buy-back” scheme, which is deemed ‘crucial for restoring long-term viability in the country’.

The precedent being sought by the IMF/Washington is that the eurozone members will step up to the plate bigtime, and European Central Bank will become the de facto sovereign for all practical purposes. This has been coming for a while now, but the proposition that Greece is ‘viable’ without massive debt forgiveness is a cynical sham.

The point isn’t to make Greece viable, it is to use Greece as a sovereign, human debt cork.

To put this into context, the eurozone’s Emergency Liquidity Assistance (ELA) scheme is a lifeline without which the Greek banks would collapse within a fortnight at the most. During October, those banks borrowed an eye-watering €123bn. That’s 30% of the entire debt Athens fessed up to three years ago….in one month. Put another way, Greek banks are borrowing a sum over three times what the original debt was every year.

There may be a few inhabitants of cloud-cuckoo land who think the ECB’s Mario Draghi is dispensing that money without printing new stuff, but as usual they’d be wrong. Just to add to the complication, by the way, Draghi is refusing to take Greek bonds at the moment, and thus the rate of growth of that ELA borrowing is rising at 20% per month compound.

Now, while for Mario this is called printing compromised paper without getting lumbered with worthless paper, it isn’t viable for Greece to carry on like this. It’s more what you’d call a seriously deranged thing to do. Yet everyone is getting excited about €48bn supposedly arriving in mid-December thanks to Samaras the Wizard…IMF willing. So let’s look at what the IMF wants to be sure is going to happen.

The ‘deal’ Samaras was mad (aka desperate) enough to accept would’ve been at home with the rates being charged by moneylenders in the Warsaw ghetto during 1942. But it’s possible the Greek Prime Minister just may – literally – not have understood the 3-card trick he’d just been conned by. The deal was announced last Tuesday: it’s taken me until now to feel even half-confident in posting about it.

In the foggy exhaustion of last Tuesday morning, Wolfgang Schäuble said that there would be no new loans for Greece to help it buy back bonds sold to its own heavily-borrowing banks. He said that Greece could raise the funds from a combination of reduced interest rates on existing loans (part of the package) and profits that Greece would “make from the European Central Bank’s bond-buying programme”. Um, except that the ECB isn’t buying bonds from Greece right now…and the interest rate reductions over say one year of the repayment are piddling.

The bottom line is this: already insolvent Greek commercial banks are to take a haircut at the level of 11% of outstanding debt, and the grand total of State debt reduction by 2022 will be just…..€11.6bn. But even this is based on Troika projections: and they are off with the fairies.

The numbers simply don’t tumble. A banking system borrowing 123 bn a month is being asked to give 11% of the debt it is owed back for nothing, to reduce the country’s debt burden by under 10% over ten years. This is March Hare meets Mad Hatter through the medium of a Dali dream landscape.

Except of course that it isn’t: it’s ‘do whatever it takes to keep the Titanic afloat…up to and including plugging the hole with steerage passengers’.

But this isn’t the first time Athens has been skewered and then roasted by the folks up North allegedly trying to help them.

Earlier this year, the Berlin-driven bondholder haircut (the pSI) was launched with the claim that it would achieve a Greek sovereign debt reduction of €110 Billion. However, the reality in practice looked considerably less philanthropic.

Greek bank assets were plundered to the tune of 55bn, followed by another 25bn of Greek social security/pension fund assets, and 30bn of assets held by foreign banks and financial institutions. That and that alone is how the debt was reduced. Basically, the Troika ran rings round the Athens Government: it cut Greece’s own debts by handing over real Hellenic assets.

But of course, because the debt reduction calculations were based on badly-forecast market rates and insane Greek gdp growth projections, the debt mountain wasn’t reduced at all. The total Greek sovereign debt at the end of 2011 stood at 356bn. The debt today stands at 304bn and, if one then adds the new tranche of 48bn, the total debt going into 2013 is about the same as it was in 2011.

As The Slog posted in May, ‘Under the terms of the 2012 Brussels Accord, Greece is doomed to sink deeper into debt even if the economy picks up….which it isn’t doing: every month, it contracts further….’

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When Papandreou pitched up in Brussels during 2009 to give his masters the heads-up on Greek borrowing incontinence, the country’s debt was 127% of gdp. By the end of 2011 it was 170.6% of gdp. Now, even accepting that brainless Berlin’s ‘inspired’ austerity has shrunk the economy, the physical amount of wonga owed by Athens is pretty much the same.

The target debt level under the latest Troika fantasy for 2022 is 133% of gdp. By then, the People of Greece will have been suffering scorched-earth austerity for twelve years. The net result of their sacrifice will be a shattered economy and a bigger debt. And trust me, it won’t be 133% of gdp: there isn’t an official from Paris to Milan who believes that bollocks. Continuing austerity will take that number to at least 170%.

The situation in Greece isn’t a sideshow to its increasingly put-upon citizens, but it is only the warm-up act for what’s coming down the road. The analogy I find myself using to people is of the 1936 Spanish Civil War versus the Second World War. Weapons are being tested and reactions gauged, but the nastiness on show is merely a taster.

As long as we have a media set in thrall to immediate events and melodramatic midnight announcements, the asylum inmates will continue on their way until everything civilised is destroyed. We do not need a regulated press in the UK, we need a responsible one. All they are responsible for at the moment is working alongside the Establishments on the smoke-screen pump – be that half-baked communiques or tabloid celeb cobblers.

The internet needs to take on the MSM’s former responsibility, but as yet we are far from ready. Sorry to keep harping on this point, but unless the blogosphere organises to cooperate, we are heading for Churchill’s New Dark Age.
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Ik ben maar naar Geen Stijl gevlucht, maar leg dat hier toch even vast:

"Tijdens de laatste vergadering van de heren 17 in Brussel toen zij die 43,7 miljard € schokten werd ook besloten(maar niet bekend gemaakt) dat minimaal 50% van de "unsustainable" schuld van Ellada via een haircut op de Europese belastingbetalers, kwijt te schelden.Dit werd gedaan op sterk aandringen van mw Lagarde van het IMF vertegenwoordigende de neo-liberale maffia van de wereld,die immers met de operatie "back to the meatpackers society" bezig is.

De truc die gebruikt zal worden om de de burgers een rad voor ogen en daarmee een poot uit te draaien is de volgende:

Griekenland weet binnen twee,drie jaar overschot op de betalingsbalans te realiseren door de "internal devaluation" voor zich te laten werken,resulterende in grotere goedkope export.

Dat helpt maar een heel klein beetje.Maar om de som kloppend, dus positief uit te laten vallen helpt hier de voor de Griekse bevolking catastrofale "vraaguitval" een handje, omdat ze niks meer kunnenkopen. Resultaat zal zijn een overschot op de betalingsbalans van in de buurt van 4% gedurende een paar jaar achtereen.En dat is precies het criterium wat in Brussel afgesproken is.

Dan zul je Samaras horen kraaien:"Griekenland heeft aan al zijn verplichten voldaan, nu is Europa aan de beurt!" En de Overlords in Brussel zullen "ja" knikken en hun bevolkinkingen met tussen de 200 en 300 miljard € verder brandschatten.Frau Merkel gaf vanochtend al een schot voor de boeg.Alarm, alarm, iedereen arm!"

guardian | 02-12-12 | 14:51 | zeer ok!
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#3
Even off topic:
Citeren zonder bronvermelding (#1) kan het forum ernstig in gevaar brengen, ook webkranten hebben namelijk copyrights. Citeren mét bronvermelding (#2) is in sommige gevallen ook onveilig.
Wel veilig is een weblink naar informatie die (publiekelijk!) op internet beschikbaar is.
Ik wil dit toch even gezegd hebben, want ik denk niet dat Oriste op een vette boete zit te wachten.
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#4
Bedankt voor je terechte tip Petraki.
Met dit soort dingen moet je altijd op je hoede zijn.
Da's ook de reden waarom ik altijd naar een bepaalde site deeplink en nooit zomaar 'copy-paste' gebruik. Misschien ook een aandachtspuntje voor andere forumgebruikers?

Ger
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Als iemand die stukken echt zou lezen, zou die iemand gezien hebben dat stuk #1 van de bekende blog THE SLOG overgenomen is, en stuk #2 is mijn eigen post op de nog bekendere site GEEN STIJL.Kom, kom heren maak u eens druk om de inhoud van die stukken.Dit is muggenziften, en het bekende verhaal van vorm versus inhoud.
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#6
Dus Ger, verwijder de tekst liever onmiddelijk, en vraag Aleko om de link ernaar. Ik zou daar niet mee wachten, ik ken forums die hierdoor in de problemen kwamen, en de grotere jongens (zoals gerenommeerde kranten) hebben de potentie om websnuffelaars in te zetten om hun copyrights te beschermen.

@Aleko
Zie je post net pas. Mijn commentaar op #2 trek ik gelijk terug. Wat #1 betreft, ik ken The Slog niet, dus niet aan mij om te beoordelen of je daarvan zomaar kan citeren.
Natuurlijk trekt de inhoud op dit onderwerp mijn aandacht, maar er is zoveel zoveel desinformatie -zoals je weet- dat ik me meestal van inhoudelijk commentaar onthoud. Uit het geheel van alles wat ik gelezen heb -en beslist niet alleen hier op Oriste, waar ik pas net kom kijken- trek ik de conclusie dat Griekenland beter af is met de Drachme. Landen met heel ongelijke economische potentie (bijv. GR en DE) kunnen nooit dezelfde munt hebben, de geschiedenis heeft dat al vele malen bewezen. Heel verhelderend is, om eens uit te zoeken welke landen hoe vaak al failliet zijn gegaan - en in alle gevallen kwam een nieuwe munt.
Het ging me niet om muggeziften, en al helemaal niet persoonlijk bedoeld, maar zelfbescherming van dit medium hier waar we (kennelijk graag) uitwisselen.
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