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Steun Oríste
31 October 2016, 17:17
Dan ik ook maar even over het gevaar Erdogan:
En die idoot gaat maar door en door.Maar dat wisten we natuurlijk al.
Het krankzinnigste van alles is natuurlijk dat de hele wereld toegeeft en niet durft op te treden, onder de totale "false assumtion" dat Erdogan — na zijn door zichzelf gestagede coup, of daarvoor — de sluizen van miljoenen emigranten/vluchtelingen naar Europa weer wijd open zal gaan zetten.Maar hij had nul,nul te maken met het opdrogen van die stroom eind 2015 begin 2016, dat waren hun eigen beslissingen en hadden alles te maken met de afsluiting van de Balkan-route.Hij hield en houdt niemand door actieve maatregelen tegen.Hij kan alleen nog maar de toevloed in beweging zitten door ze massaal gedwongen op honderde ferries te zetten die zen verspeid over het hele Middellandse zee gebied aan wal te dwingen.Met Griekenland natuurlijk als eerste keuze.Nou, dat valt wel tegen te houden.EU et al. laat die man je toch niet bang maken ten koste van god weet welke kankjoreme concessies hij nog meer gaat vragen.Laat je toch niet belazeren.
Dit waren zijn weekend-strapatsen:
Europe's Erdogan dilemma
By Alex Barker
October 31, 2016
Not even the clocks in Turkey can ignore the whims of Recep Tayyip Erdogan. This weekend Turkey’s imperious president decided to make it summertime all year. The decision to abandon daylight saving time moves Ankara an hour further from Europe, and into a timezone with Khartoum, Moscow and Riyadh. If only that were the end of it.
Mr Erdogan issued decrees to oust 10,158 public officials; expelled 1,267 academics from their posts; took charge of appointing university rectors; permitted prosecutors to record client-lawyer conversations; allowed judges to deny access to lawyers for up to three months; and shut down 15 (mainly Kurdish) media outlets. And that was just this weekend.
Don’t forget the more than 100,000 accused, sacked or detained in relation to the botched coup in July, or the internet blackout across swathes of majority Kurdish areas in the southeast, or the detention and arrest of the elected mayors of Diyarbakir.
Then there is matter of the death penalty. Since the attempted coup - a watershed moment for modern Turkey that FAZ calls the beginning of its second republic - Mr Erdogan’s rhetoric has swung from hot to lukewarm on whether to reinstate capital punishment, which was dropped in 2004 as part of Turkey’s EU membership bid. This weekend it turned red hot. Sporting a pair of black aviator sunglasses, Mr Erdogan bellowed these words on Saturday to a crowd chanting: “Execution! Execution!”
"Our government will take this proposal [on capital punishment] to parliament. I am sure parliament will approve it, and when it comes back to me, I will ratify it...Soon, soon, don't worry. It's happening soon, God willing. The West says this, the West says that. Excuse me, but what counts is not what the West says. What counts is what my people say."
What should Europe do? The Economist’s Charlemagne column recently gave an eloquent defence of continuing Turkey’s implausible EU membership bid (headline: two cheers for hypocrisy!). There are good reasons to avoid facing the reality of the situation. Both sides have too much at stake to risk being honest. Even so, it seems Mr Erdogan is doing his level best to bring the charade crashing down.
Officials in Brussels and Berlin mostly worry about the Turkey-EU migration deal collapsing and migrant flows to the Greek islands restarting. Under one scenario, Europe’s attempt at realpolitik would implode. Mr Erdogan would compromise, meet the EU’s conditions for visa free travel - basically complete his side the migration-deal bargain - only to find Europe’s politicians block the travel rights anyway. Mr Erdogan would cry foul and walk away and the Aegean migration route could reopen.
There is another scenario that is just as worrying. Mr Erdogan would not bend or ask Europe for favours on visas. He would just carry on accusing the EU of betrayal. Meanwhile he would flout every EU norm going, hollow out what is left of Turkey’s democracy and even perhaps reinstate the death penalty. Each step would expose the EU’s accession policy to ridicule. And each step would effectively dare the EU to act, knowing the bloc’s fear of migration is greater than its fear of him, or its faithfulness to democratic values. Whatever the clocks may say, these are hard times indeed
Al met al niet zo'n leuk vooruitzicht, maar die bluffer is gemakkelijk te pareren, als je maar lef hebt.
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En die idoot gaat maar door en door.Maar dat wisten we natuurlijk al.
Het krankzinnigste van alles is natuurlijk dat de hele wereld toegeeft en niet durft op te treden, onder de totale "false assumtion" dat Erdogan — na zijn door zichzelf gestagede coup, of daarvoor — de sluizen van miljoenen emigranten/vluchtelingen naar Europa weer wijd open zal gaan zetten.Maar hij had nul,nul te maken met het opdrogen van die stroom eind 2015 begin 2016, dat waren hun eigen beslissingen en hadden alles te maken met de afsluiting van de Balkan-route.Hij hield en houdt niemand door actieve maatregelen tegen.Hij kan alleen nog maar de toevloed in beweging zitten door ze massaal gedwongen op honderde ferries te zetten die zen verspeid over het hele Middellandse zee gebied aan wal te dwingen.Met Griekenland natuurlijk als eerste keuze.Nou, dat valt wel tegen te houden.EU et al. laat die man je toch niet bang maken ten koste van god weet welke kankjoreme concessies hij nog meer gaat vragen.Laat je toch niet belazeren.
Dit waren zijn weekend-strapatsen:
Europe's Erdogan dilemma
By Alex Barker
October 31, 2016
Not even the clocks in Turkey can ignore the whims of Recep Tayyip Erdogan. This weekend Turkey’s imperious president decided to make it summertime all year. The decision to abandon daylight saving time moves Ankara an hour further from Europe, and into a timezone with Khartoum, Moscow and Riyadh. If only that were the end of it.
Mr Erdogan issued decrees to oust 10,158 public officials; expelled 1,267 academics from their posts; took charge of appointing university rectors; permitted prosecutors to record client-lawyer conversations; allowed judges to deny access to lawyers for up to three months; and shut down 15 (mainly Kurdish) media outlets. And that was just this weekend.
Don’t forget the more than 100,000 accused, sacked or detained in relation to the botched coup in July, or the internet blackout across swathes of majority Kurdish areas in the southeast, or the detention and arrest of the elected mayors of Diyarbakir.
Then there is matter of the death penalty. Since the attempted coup - a watershed moment for modern Turkey that FAZ calls the beginning of its second republic - Mr Erdogan’s rhetoric has swung from hot to lukewarm on whether to reinstate capital punishment, which was dropped in 2004 as part of Turkey’s EU membership bid. This weekend it turned red hot. Sporting a pair of black aviator sunglasses, Mr Erdogan bellowed these words on Saturday to a crowd chanting: “Execution! Execution!”
"Our government will take this proposal [on capital punishment] to parliament. I am sure parliament will approve it, and when it comes back to me, I will ratify it...Soon, soon, don't worry. It's happening soon, God willing. The West says this, the West says that. Excuse me, but what counts is not what the West says. What counts is what my people say."
What should Europe do? The Economist’s Charlemagne column recently gave an eloquent defence of continuing Turkey’s implausible EU membership bid (headline: two cheers for hypocrisy!). There are good reasons to avoid facing the reality of the situation. Both sides have too much at stake to risk being honest. Even so, it seems Mr Erdogan is doing his level best to bring the charade crashing down.
Officials in Brussels and Berlin mostly worry about the Turkey-EU migration deal collapsing and migrant flows to the Greek islands restarting. Under one scenario, Europe’s attempt at realpolitik would implode. Mr Erdogan would compromise, meet the EU’s conditions for visa free travel - basically complete his side the migration-deal bargain - only to find Europe’s politicians block the travel rights anyway. Mr Erdogan would cry foul and walk away and the Aegean migration route could reopen.
There is another scenario that is just as worrying. Mr Erdogan would not bend or ask Europe for favours on visas. He would just carry on accusing the EU of betrayal. Meanwhile he would flout every EU norm going, hollow out what is left of Turkey’s democracy and even perhaps reinstate the death penalty. Each step would expose the EU’s accession policy to ridicule. And each step would effectively dare the EU to act, knowing the bloc’s fear of migration is greater than its fear of him, or its faithfulness to democratic values. Whatever the clocks may say, these are hard times indeed
Al met al niet zo'n leuk vooruitzicht, maar die bluffer is gemakkelijk te pareren, als je maar lef hebt.
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